Wednesday, March 17, 2010

Poisoning Paradise in the Netherlands

We were emailed by the major movie reviewer in the Netherlands yesterday.
They requested a copy of Poisoning Paradise to review.
This came as a surprise, as we were unaware this corner of Earth was aware of New Zealand.
It's exciting news, as we might finally get an independent film critic to look at Poisoning Paradise and tell us what DoC, and other government agencies have been telling New Zealand since it was released....that it's crap, and has no truth to it, what so ever!
Once the review is completed, it will be posted here, whether it supports government or not.
Click here to view the site.
Poisoning Paradise is currently entered into 10 international film festivals, with more to come.
It has been nominated for an award in the first of these festivals, which is yet to be finalised.
Oh, and by the way Rebecca Coleman (please see previous posts too learn about Rebecca Coleman), if you're keeping pace, please email Movie 2 Movie and tell them how terrible we are!

25 comments:

  1. hey Clyde. while you're waiting for the accolades from the international film critics to roll in.....had a chance to read those research articles about fluoroacetate in tea?

    and if so - would you advise people that there's no fluoroacetate in the tea on their supermarket shelves?

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  2. docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B6c0s3UWOsTXNTBhYjJiZDItZTA1YS00YjIxLTg0NzUtYjVjZmMzNTJlMGJj&hl=en

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  3. "It is important to note that not all of the research on aerial 1080 is obviously biased. There are several
    authors whom we have cited and who appear not to be biased in reporting their results; among these are
    Bellingham, et al, Innes and Barker, Weaver, Lloyd and McQueen, and Meads. "
    The above comment is from the Americans Whiting OKeefe who appear in the Graff movie 'Poisoning Paradise'

    click the link and see what Mr J Innes has to say...

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  4. "Some people are expecting the money that goes into possum control for conservation and animal health should be redirected to fur recovery, because they haven't looked at the reality that the two are not equivalent.
    "The economic viability of fur recovery runs out before ecological benefits kick in."
    He says out of 100 possums, DoC has to get the population down to five before the trees start growing back faster than the animals eat them. For trappers, if the population gets too low it isn't worth their while to be in the area.
    There are also economies of scale, he says. In a remote block of 2000ha it may be possible to cover 500ha on the ground, but the helicopter is already in the air so why drop poison over 1500ha then have trappers spend the next six months controlling the rest?
    "Our mandate for conservation is to protect indigenous biodiversity. To do that we put our money where the best bang for the buck comes. It doesn't mean giving it to a fur trapper to make a dollar, then walking away before the job's done."
    However co-ordination could be better and the department is keen to keep talking to the industry, he says.
    In the Ureweras DoC intensively manages a core area and commercial trappers go into surrounding buffer zones. The money the department saves on not having to control possums in these buffer zones can then be put into other high-priority areas. This model could be replicated elsewhere

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  5. "the $100 million possum/merino garment industry"....and hoping to double if they can just get rid of 1080.

    No wonder they're happy to pay Clydes rent whilst he stirs up fear using mis-information and production-house propaganda videos.

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  6. In response to NZ Herald post above -
    this is another foolish article, reeking of bureaucratic influence!

    The comment - "He says out of 100 possums, DoC has to get the population down to five before the trees start growing back faster than the animals eat them" - is utter non-sense, and designed to mislead the public, once again.

    Possums, unchecked, consume only 3% of what the forest puts out. Possums do not cause canopy collapse.
    Snow, cyclones, disease, drought, flood may all cause temporary canopy colapse. However, the forest soon recovers, as is evident in the Urewera's. In 2006, a massive snow fall (The heaviest in at least 50 years) dropped a third of the canopy to the ground. It is now hard to detect the damage (unless you wander through the bush below). This has recovered, believe it or not, without 1080.

    Possums aren't hard to control. They have one young per year - not 10's or hundreds, like the stoats and rats that increase rapidly after 1080 drops.

    Using man on the ground, increasing huts and track networks in the bush, concentrating on key areas of importance is the way forward for a healthy, clean, green New Zealand.
    Poison, hidden in an attractive food, dropped into forests where it is known that insects, aquatic life, lizards, frogs, bats, animals, live stock, birds, plants, and goodness knows what else, take it up, is a lunatic practice!

    One hopes that the departments responsible for practicing this ecocide will one day be exposed, and those supporting them, also.

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  7. As one of those thousands of kiwi's who work beside and are supported by DoC I realise that Clydes focus on opossums is more of his smoke and mirrors. Opossums are bad, they are responsible for canopy collapse and they opportunistically prey on eggs and fledglings.
    BUT the true Evil of our forests are the rats and stoats...maybe Mr Clyde will en-lighten us as how men on the ground will bring rat plagues down to less than 4% tracking rate. And will he personally at 5 o'clock in the morning in the middle of winter in Fiordland be clearing rat traps for $13 p hour?
    (i suspect not!)

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  8. In response to NZ Herald post above -
    this is another foolish article, reeking of bureaucratic influence!

    so now the New Zealand Herald are in conspiracy with DoC and Landcare Research and ERMA and AHB not to mention thousands of NZ trained ecologists and scientists .

    Hopefully Clydey-boy won't start wearing camo gear around the house and reading 'Soldier of Fortune' mags...

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  9. Ground control methods maintain rat numbers to acceptable levels.
    Rat numbers are out of control, AFTER 1080 drops. If you want to control rats with 1080, you'll need to drop the stuff every two years. You will decimate the forest ecology, as you are, by doing that!

    There's ample money to develop responsible gound control methods, nationwide - that's if we take into account the money used in the poison industry, and also the money thrown at "research" to support 1080, annually - This money can then be offset by the export revenue the possums provide.
    And more money should be added, to save this country's ecology from contaminates.

    Possums aren't as bad as they're made out to be, they may need to be controlled, but they're not the big problem - they are simply the stimulous for greedy bureaucrats.

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  10. Oh, did the New Zealand Herald write that article? Well yes, they too have the wool pulled over their eyes, should that be the case!

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  11. 好文章給人的感覺就是很好,謝謝您~~..............................

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  12. "Possums aren't as bad as they're made out to be, they may need to be controlled, but they're not the big problem"

    finally Clyde speaks a glimmer of sense!!

    "Ground control methods maintain rat numbers to acceptable levels."

    spoken by a true armchair-charley...this is totall BS! and clydey knows it...rats can be containd within relativly small areas (2-300 hectares max) using intense and very expensive ground control..but they are not economic to 'farm', so you'll not be getting buy-in from Clydes sponsors at the pest meat and fur industry.

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  13. "Possums aren't as bad as they're made out to be, they may need to be controlled, but they're not the big problem"
    Clyde Graff


    So true!... the true Evil of our forests are the rats and stoats...maybe Mr Clyde will en-lighten us as how men on the ground will bring rat plagues down to less than 4% tracking rate. And will he personally at 5 o'clock in the morning in the middle of winter in Fiordland be clearing rat traps for $13 p hour?
    (i suspect not!)

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  14. "In response to NZ Herald post above -
    this is another foolish article, reeking of bureaucratic influence!...
    yes, they too have the wool pulled over their eyes,"
    Clyde Graff

    so now the New Zealand Herald are in conspiracy with DoC and Landcare Research and ERMA and AHB not to mention thousands of NZ trained ecologists and scientists .

    Hopefully Clydey-boy won't start wearing camo gear around the house, talking to himself... and reading 'Soldier of Fortune' mags!

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  15. Hey BCT & Trakabat you are "selling science to justify a profit" Your AHB & DoC fat cats are sitting on big salaries brain washing you with this "no alternative mentality" so you and you late sipping tweat & squeak brigade can do some free feel good work in the bush every now and then so you can wave the "1080 is the best thing since I shaved my arm pits" flag. How do you explain massive increases of Pigs & rats in the Whirinaki after two 1080 drops, and by the way where have the Kakas gone?
    PCE

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  16. 'Effects of a 1080 operation on kaka and kereru survival and nesting
    success, Whirinaki Forest Park '
    Powlesland et al
    New Zealand Journal of Ecology (2003) 27(2): 125-137 ©New Zealand Ecological Society

    do you really care where the kakas have gone Clyde boy?
    read the report referenced above and you'll find out ... down the throat of rats and stoats and possums

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  17. he doesn't care about kaka ...pest meat & fur (and a couple a hundies from NZDA) pay his way.

    traitor

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  18. a cupla
    hundies
    from
    NZDA
    pay
    his way
    pce

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  19. Stop looking at journals & Utube, go out in the Whirinaki and have a look now, few birds & lots of pigs & rats waiting to predate on whats left....well done!
    PCE

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  20. I'd rather back Clyde with a few dollars to show the world what clean green really means....1080 super toxin spread averywhere. Than let you advocate $55m spent on treating NZ as a chemical toilet for no benefit.

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  21. I see that it was Herb Christophers, from DoC headquaters in Wellington, that wrote the exaggerated comments that you quoted from the Herald.
    These guys are offering great initiative and industry opportunities, and even then, DoC has to shoot it down because it might encroach on their poison budget.
    Incidentally, It was Herb Christophers that initially agreed to an interview when we requested one, but a week later stated that DoC weren't interested in what a couple of brothers were doing, and then refused to allow us to interview DoC for our first, friendly doco, A Shadow of Doubt.
    This was another time DoC has refused to be interviewed. I bring it up, because in your critique of Poisoning Paradise you state that the Graf's should have approached higher staff for an interview, rather than district staff!
    Another official refusal came from the minister of conservation at the time - Steve Chadwick - stating that it was not appropriate for the minister to be interviewed because "1080 was an operational procedure. Why not grant an interview, surely DoC should offer their expertise, with nothing to hide, to all the public?

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  22. “Brushtail possum damage to NZ forest communities varies widely. Where
    preferred foods are dominant, canopy species damage can be extensive
    and may lead to complete canopy collapse. Conversely, where browsing of
    the dominant tree species is minimal, floristic composition, but not forest
    structure, is typically affected.”
    Landcare Research

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  23. Could you please tell us exactly where they forests are? Thanks.

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  24. It's good that there are real people out there who can see by some of these comments just who around here is working for DOC et al and who is speaking the People's Truth which, in the end, WILL prevail - whether you like it or not.

    Without a shadow of doubt, (excuse the pun, Clyde my friend) on the road to an organic and sustainable future, the only chance for the survival of our own species, the irresponsible distribution of 1080 poison WILL be stopped in its tracks.
    And it won't be long now before our overseas tourists, along with the consumers of our produce, realise that this "clean green 100% PURE NZ" image is not all that it's cracked up to be.
    Then you'll see more than a few of these bureaucrats running for cover & losing their fat cat pay packets, hehe.

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